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Letters to the Editor: November 12, 2013
Submitted by West Valley View on Mon, 11/11/2013 - 10:00pm
Conservative word games
I can restate Mr. Orr’s socialist letter of October 25th briefly. “When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.” — Humpty Dumpty (in Through the Looking-Glass).
Of course what he ignores is that merely perceiving something as true isn’t enough. It must also be true! (Otherwise, guess what happens if he stands in front of an onrushing truck because he “perceives” it to be a tiny kitty? Splat!)
As for his November 1st. letter — well if by “fine-tune” he meant I “totally demolished” his arguments on-line, then I agree. He’s conceded that a number of his “Founders’ quotes” are bogus. I’ve also shown that the rest are either taken out-of-context, and/or misrepresent their author’s views.
Most important is a fact he keeps ignoring: the word “democracy” can mean either a pure democracy, where people vote on laws directly (such as through Arizona’s Initiative and Referendum process), or it can refer generically to any government of, by, and for the people — including a representative democracy, also known as a republic!
Thus if he (or Mr. Azzarello) want to be completely accurate, they should call America what it is: a constitutional democracy, in the form of a republic. (That emphasized word being the most important part.) Anything else is just empty rhetoric.
And speaking of history, do you know the name of our nation’s second great political party (founded by Jefferson and Madison to oppose the Federalist Party)? The Democratic — Republicans!
But in keeping with Mr. Orr’s language “principles”, I will henceforth (mockingly) call him, and his “fellow travelers”, both Socialists and Communists. Why? Because I “define” those words as meaning everyone who supports Republicans or (so-called) “conservative” values. I invite anyone who cares about reality to join me.
Gordon P.R. Posner
The problem with a lie
We expect to have our children tell us a lie at some point and we believe they will soon grow out of the habit when they realize the consequences. If they do not grow out of the habit it is a serious threat to the trust between parent and child. A spouse that lies also breaks trust. More lies — less trust. The result is often a disaster. Politicians seem to be professional liars at times and it is difficult to get them to take personal responsibility. However, the result is the same — broken trust. If we cannot trust our elected officials to tell us the truth and if we continue to elect them, we are in serious difficulty. Let’s show the liars the consequences of their actions and replace them at the earliest possible opportunity.
Profiles in stupidity
Once again avid readers of the West Valley View were richly rewarded and pleasantly surprised by the return of the absurd rantings of Mr. David Compton in the 10-25 edition. Mr. Compton’s ultra liberal absurdities dealt with the damage Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) supposedly did to the American economy by leading the recent government shutdown.
What the court jester, Mr. Compton, failed to mention was the damage Mr. Obama and his liberal Democrats have done to this country with the fiasco called Obamacare. Not to mention the fact that 80% of the jobs created in this country last year were part-time positions, as reported by the U.S. Department of Labor. This being done so small time businesses and American industrial companies can dodge providing health care to their employees thanks to Obamacare. Let us not forget about the 460,000 Americans in Florida and California who recently had their health insurance policies cancelled thanks to Obamacare. This is exactly what Mr. Obama and that knucklehead Pelosi said would not happen!
Mr. Compton, while you are busy sending out your invoices why not send on to your liberal pals in Congress for 400 million, the cost of the Obamacare website that did not work when it was rolled out and does not function today. It’s hard to figure if the Obama administration is the most liberal in this country’s history or the most incompetent!!
So, Mr. Compton please keep your letters coming in from Green Acres, Hooterville U.S.A. I find them quite humorous and they also come in handy when I run out of toilet paper.
Bonds aren’t the answer
An article appearing the Arizona Republic on October 20, 2013 to the effect that on two college admission tests, the SAT and ACT, for high school graduates, of more than 31, 000 who took these tests in Arizona only 21% of high school seniors stand a chance of getting a “C” or better in math, science, English and reading. The majority will have to take remedial class to play catch up. They will have to attend a community college if they want to continue.
Its sad to think after 13 yrs of school including pre-school they have to take remedial classes.
Not all children are college material. A lot will drop out of school.
The schools have not come up with any solution, except over rides and floating bond.
I think if parents want their children to do better, here are some suggestions.
“Take their cell phones away”
Take their “I” pads away
Do not let them play video games during the school week.
When the come home from school be there, and see that they study and do their assignments.
If they continue to slide, then take away the non essential after school activities, but above all, one of the parents has to be home when they get home, otherwise, they will get on the cell phone for hours.
Our schools in Arizona rank low in comparison with other states.
The school system wants you to vote yes on over-rides and got you convinced that it will take care of the problems
John Kouris Sr.
Grijalva is wrong
Raul Grijalva is wrong! To be a sovereign nation you must be able to control your borders. We are a nation of laws not of men’s emotions. For any Congressmen to knowingly break one law because of another is WRONG.
The congressman may “feel” I don’t know what I’m “talking” about, but I brought my first wife in legally from Mexico. (first, she changed that not me). For her, two of my sons were born in Mexico. I brought both of them in legally. Now, two of my sons have wives from Mexico that are here legally! It takes time, lots of paperwork and now adays lots of money, but it can be done LEGALLY!
Thankfully the Congressional district lines have changed. Raul Grijalva is no longer my congressman, so I don’t need to be as upset with him as I would have been, if he was still my congressman. The Grijlava family that lived in Buckeye were very good people. I don’t know whether Raul is closely related or not?
Bernard Oviatt Sr.
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